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skramp Click to EMail skrampClick to view user profileClick to check IP address of the poster 23-Jul-00, 02:53 PM (GMT)
"Transsexuals and change of Official Records"
Hi,

I read that transsexuals in Germany must be sterilised to obtain documents showing their changed sex. I wondered if this was necessary to obtain a changed birth certificate, passport etc. Or, what types of rights require sterilisation?

The reference was to German legislation:

TSG (1980) Second Section, SS 8.1 (iii)

I am interested in reading this provision as well as others that might have a similar emphasis. My problem is that I only read english and do not know how to obtain any english copies.

Thanks
Paul

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Legal recognition of sex change, gd, 24-Jul-00, (1)
RE: Legal recognition of sex change, skramp, 24-Jul-00, (2)
Transsexuellengesetz, gd, 25-Jul-00, (3)
RE: Transsexuellengesetz, skramp, 26-Jul-00, (4)
RE: Transsexuellengesetz, skramp, 27-Jul-00, (5)

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gd Click to EMail gdClick to view user profileClick to check IP address of the poster 24-Jul-00, 12:29 PM (GMT)
1. "Legal recognition of sex change"
It is true that 8 Transsexuellengesetz makes legal recognition of a sex change conditional i.a. on the person concerned being incapable of reproduction. As far as I know, this extends to all aspects of legal recognition of a sex change. I am not aware of any English translation of this Act, or any relevant literature in English language.
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skramp Click to EMail skrampClick to view user profileClick to check IP address of the poster 24-Jul-00, 12:50 PM (GMT)
2. "RE: Legal recognition of sex change"
Thank you for your response.

Do you know if German versions of the legislation are available online? I would then have to translate.

Now I know why I should have paid more attention in German classes at school.

Paul

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gd Click to EMail gdClick to view user profileClick to check IP address of the poster 25-Jul-00, 01:45 PM (GMT)
3. "Transsexuellengesetz"
There is an on-line version available from:
http://bgbl.makrolog.de/
The short title of the Act is as above. The date is 10 October 1980. It was published in the Bundesgesetzblatt 1980 Vol. I p. 1654. Your school German will help you to download the Act with this information.

There have been some subsequent amendments - in particular the 25 year age minimum was declared unconstitutional and void by the Federal Constitutional Court. Some minor other changes are probably less interesting for you.

Gerhard Dannemann

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skramp Click to EMail skrampClick to view user profileClick to check IP address of the poster 26-Jul-00, 03:18 AM (GMT)
4. "RE: Transsexuellengesetz"
Thank you for your assistance

Paul

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skramp Click to EMail skrampClick to view user profileClick to check IP address of the poster 27-Jul-00, 03:48 AM (GMT)
5. "RE: Transsexuellengesetz"
In Australia (my home) transsexuals are only recognised for "non-essential" purposes. This means that they cannot marry as a member of their chosen sex. Although 2 Australian states allow changing of birth records, the original is amended.

This means that the transsexual person becomes a member of the new sex and the past is, in a way, erased. It seems to me that in Germany the past sex remains intact. The new one is created from the day the court agrees?

I wondered if:
Can transsexuals marry as a memeer of their "new" sex in Germany.

Am I right that transsexuals are legally assigned the status of their chosen sex after the court agrees the provisions of the legislation have been satisfied -- and this applies from the date of the hearing.

Do you know of any english texts about this?

Thanks
Paul

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